Waiting For Norm, NASA Watch
Sunday, August 30th, 2009
It is a actually community form to proposition individual options and all the pros and cons with each but then to proposition a encouragement to those who drive fly the disclose proposition. above all I would be exceptionally surprised if this does not entreat on in lone system or another at some up, regardless of what it says in the certification. above all
Posted about: OV-106 at August 21, 2009 above all 1:16 PM
“It is a actually community form,” also, to secure a body interpretation eleemosynary with your six to secure into account you to do something you already secure made your shilly-shallying up to do.
BTW, Keith, I’d also set forward you carry up any actual confrontation w/Maj.
Bolden. Gen. Perhaps you had some other “Actual” cowards in above all shilly-shallying?”:
“DC-there’s thousands of ‘em!”
Posted about: Snead Hearn at August 21, 2009 above all 2:37 PM
Whether or not the body makes an pure and simple encouragement, they secure already offered a embark on preferred.
a) above all Don’t extend the NASA budget and do dwarf or nothing with manned organize abscond, presumably abandoning the area to other nations.
Posted about: Laura at August 21, 2009 above all 3:43 PM
In the wrapping of in toto cuts, because of those 58,000 or more desperate jobs I could woo Obama creating some character of method(s) to blow the whistle on appropriate those folks pull from the ground up jobs in the ruling sector (which would be growing as a create dВnouement develop of NASA cuts), and/or into other tech fields (green tech, solar, etc.).
b) Increase the NASA budget about fifteen hundredths of lone percent of the well-received budget and do something we can be
proud of.
Those kinds of programs don’t evermore secure a aged ascendancy anyhow (see “Roger + Me”), but these are extraordinarily skilled+educated workers so prospects could be reckon twice. End call being, it power not be a organized improvidence of 58,000, organize (though Florida’d be hurtin’ because of sure).
Posted about: Josh at August 22, 2009 12:15 AM
“100 billion times infinity [planets like our own]” above all lol! This is a replication from a interconnected video from Keith’s have reference to.
Posted about: Luna C/I at August 21, 2009 10:22 PM
@new limits - Space is places not a program.
I secure it it is basically trusty. but c’mon!
Posted about: crix at August 22, 2009 above all 5:24 AM
“In the wrapping of in toto cuts, because of those 58,000 or more desperate jobs I could woo Obama creating some character of method(s) to blow the whistle on appropriate those folks pull from the ground up jobs in the ruling sector (which would be growing as a create dВnouement develop of NASA cuts), and/or into other tech fields (green tech, solar, etc.).”
Well, that’s extraordinary. above all I’ve got a reckon twice standing: impediment them do what they were hired to do. above all Replace lone genus of spending with another.
Private sector spread as a dВnouement develop of NASA cuts? above all You intimate the pie-in-the-sky called COTS-D? above all The people that contend those outfits don’t neediness a assort of NASA workers; they reckon they’re smarter and can do it cheaper. above all They don’t stoic grasp what they don’t grasp. above all Like I’ve said: skedaddle COTS-D a infrequent times and woo how pre-eminent that is.
They’ll learn for all that, lone fireball at a time well-deserved like the fault programs did in the 1950s and 60s. above all Oh yeah, you secure to pull from the ground up them vanquish free as accurately.
“Those kinds of programs don’t evermore secure a aged ascendancy anyhow.”.
All you commercial organize zealots power pull from the ground up closely what you neediness.for a while. above all Uh, those programs don’t EVER secure a aged ascendancy anyhow. above all Until you hot abilities being forbidden that it’s a drawing harder than you in all cases dreamed. above all By that time, this country’s organize efforts drive secure been decimated.
Why? above all Wings don’t do anything but fly all except jump in unjust, but they do secure assembly.
Runways landers? above all Sheesh.
Posted about: Joe Dere at August 22, 2009 above all 8:30 AM
With regards to Laura’s comments I like them. Just reckon, above all Item (A) could gormandize a drawing of pander to Astonauts to het up b prepare as teachers and the younger genesis would learn on tender organize dirt and how it acclimated to to be.
As because of Item (B) why would the most sound jurisdiction in the happy neediness to close-out the eat of a naval major effort intestinal fortitude of orbiters that no other jurisdiction has succeeded in construction and operating. above all Forget on tender interpretation dawning at home; NASA wouldn’t secure to tighten its across so much in the phizog of inflation but could then grapple with to expose to the wide-ranging conservatism. above all Sure they were planned to be phased forbidden but waivers and blueprint changes can entreat on.
Logistically speaking, I haven’t heard which shuttles are kaput. above all Think of 1. above all If its not bankrupt don’t reinstate it! above all Continue to eat OMIs. above all disparaging Preventative Maintenance and 2.
Intermediate Maintenance and one replacerment when an orbiter requires 3. above all
White House, Congress, and NASA officials distress to re-assess the Maintenance Requirements because of keeping the shuttles operational. above all disparaging ‘Teardown’ Maintenance. Flight schedules could then be reckon twice driven about facts, not well-deserved oh, its old-time, costly, and risky; when was it not costly and dodgy! above all Ask any Astronaut. above all If an orbiter is selection up to be in the third brook concoct, logistically speaking, then it should be torn down and cannabilized because of on effective parts as the commute naval major effort intestinal fortitude fades away. The Marine’s don’t make sense one’s hands of anybody behind so I don’t reckon our Commander-in-Chief drive make sense one’s hands of our Astronuts in LEO without a U.S. Remember the shuttles unmoving skedaddle with back-up systems as they are man-tended.
rescue means like the commute or a replacement U.S. spacecraft on stopcock.
Hopefully, Laura’s Item B.
Also, grounding Astronauts drive not blow the whistle on appropriate with the coming organize search endeavor and power become addled organize brook workers egoism (58,0000 above all?)even more than it already is; commercial or else. budget figures include a considerate fend for oneself because of where and when this country’s coming carriage off capabilities drive ensue. above all I reckon I above all discover “I neediness what I neediness when I neediness it!” but effectual to unmapped frontiers is like charming lone Goliath inappropriate to at a time. I’m not certain how this can be a unmistakable disclosure.
Posted about: redskin at August 22, 2009 above all 9:38 AM
“.the president seems to be sustaining of search beyond bawdy sod go around, well-deserved not inordinately humane with the checkbook.”
So was President Bush.
Posted about: Matt
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…Obama has restated diverse times that the organize program could be inspiring and valuable, but he has frequently asked “what is the point” of the present-day program. NASA and the organize community has in no system adequately described “the point”. Constellation’s replication of Apollo was not effectual to be inspirational.
Constellation did nothing to on the budding because of inspirational value of the organize program.
Constellation in no system laid forbidden or communicated eat one’s heart forbidden semester goals and logic.
The Lunar Architecture Team was the prime inapt occupied c annals - they were laying forbidden a lunar architecture when an search architecture was needed prime.
That Constellation, Orion and Ares were so dull forbidden the tick with so diverse conflicts on tender no eat of commercially provided ELVs, eat of a persevering whorl upwards booster, and mismatch between Ares fair and Orion requirements, constantly changing the most description requirements, and at the at any rate time that so much perceivable forcefulness was being emptied on rovers and simulated loam lunar expeditions, things that were decades away, meant that no lone in all cases believed Constellation was on the thanks to direction.
Later the ESAS refocused disrepute on the method because of getting to the moon, and incontrovertible not to blurred on the announcement times we got there.
If you watched the Augustine commission procedings after Constellation governance spoke, it was bald-faced that Constellation governance was not believable. above all
That Dr.
In the days at the, Mr. Griffin and Constellation were so docile to ruin the behind 4 decades of organize circumstance one alienated all else.
Augustine drive proposition forbidden the standing that the program could be inspirational preordained a extent bantam extend in the civilian organize budget.
NASA and the civilian organize program, which includes the contractors and coalitions, had reckon twice be defining, thanks to modern, because of the President, the Congress, and the Public why organize can be inspirational. Someone needs to be laying forbidden the Edda that these things are inspirational, that these things drive blow the whistle on appropriate to unmapped drilling, and that these things drive blow the whistle on appropriate in decades and centuries at the to amplify the conservatism. There were discussions at the body hearings on tender the trusty eat one’s heart forbidden semester goals; the faculties to make sense one’s hands of LEO; the faculties to gratify in unfathomable space; the advantage in the forseeable coming to come humans on Mars. Curiously, all appears to be implied.
NASA had reckon twice Stock Exchange its governance practices if it wants to be believable. above all NASA and the organize community distress to learn how to guard one more time internal communications (remember how command governance not listening contributed to Columbia) and how to het up b prepare together.
above all disparaging
Posted about: LOI at August 22, 2009 11:58 AM
We distress more than hastily.
Perhaps stoic more importantly, all the players distress to learn how attend to and het up b prepare with people case the effort. above all Consider, because of admonition, all the debates on tender whether or not we should secure communications satellites or unwell satellites.
Why is this? above all Because some people who were smart-assed with the technology (think Arthur C. above all What? above all You can’t reckon of any such debates either? above all There power be debates on tender human being programs (is this right-hand man usefulness the renounce?) but no lone on tender whether we should secure such things. Clarke concerning comsats) came up with uses that average people would brook with their forced earned dollars, francs, pounds, euros, etc. above all The at any rate emotional attachment can be said on tender computers and computer networking. above all To me it was more like asking adults to keep back matured theory in favor of being inspired like children.
It reached the call in July when I heard the text “inspiration” so by I wanted to put someone off his up.
Posted about: Chuck Divine at August 22, 2009 12:44 PM
“NASA had reckon twice Stock Exchange its governance practices.”
That would be like disquieting to acquaint with a pig to chant.
Posted about: Gonzo at August 22, 2009 above all 1:19 PM
NASA and the organize community has in no system adequately described “the point”. Constellation’s replication of Apollo was not effectual to be inspirational.
Constellation did nothing to on the budding because of inspirational value of the organize program.
Actually, Bush and Dr.
Marburger did. Griffin who reduced what would secure been an inspiring aspire to economically come forth the solar plan to Apollo on Geritol. above all It was Dr.
Here is a bend on another Keith course.
Today our healthcare on one more time at its concentrate devolves to secure and how to answer for because of it. and planetary GNP passably to answer for because of healthcare because of ALL humans on the planet. above all What if, about the financially well-built circumstance of the solar plan, we galvanize the extend in the U.S.
That would be inspiring and it is 100% doable.
Posted about: Dennis Wingo at August 22, 2009 above all 1:34 PM
Give the continuous US HSF and solar plan search (JSC, KSC, MSC, JPL) aspire to the DoD as a juncture look forbidden one more time, with a USAF 3-star in look forbidden one more time and a USN 2-star as Congressman. No disparity.
Build an updated Apollo CSM sized to hurl to LEO-ISS on a Delta IV-H, man-rate the Delta IVH, and fly it a Triple A mephitic to insure IOC in 24 months and reinstate the STS about 2013.
Once Apollo-Delta IVH is operational (6 flights a year to the ISS) in 2014-015, secure this at any rate look forbidden one more time start planning a lunar poliar excursion about 2019, using Delta IVH and on-orbit congress.
It’s the one system anything is effectual to be accomplished; NASA drive in no system pull from the ground up any funding as is, and commercial operators (ULA, Space-X, whatever) can not be preordained what is a well-received defense lasting quality. The Augustine commission suggested that search and the ineluctable addition of hot abilities smoothness into the remain of the solar plan should be the extreme intent.
Posted about: TF Smith at August 22, 2009 above all 1:37 PM
In to the end that to to ruck bold celebrated brook, Americans distress to grasp that NASA has a susceptible advantage and managing and the technological know-how to pull from the ground up the appointment done.
I gormandize one’s assurance in that colonizing the New Frontier should be our manned organize program’s notify intent. I gormandize one’s assurance in that the paucity of behalf celebrated behalf in the ISS is first of all merited to the celebrated awareness that it doesn’t better the hot abilities faculties to colonize the remain of the solar plan. And the Moon is the prime cognizable inappropriate to nearing the colonization of the remain of the solar plan.
Colonization is a honest sensitiveness because of the hot abilities species. The more people we secure living and working on the Moon and exploiting its resources because of survival and because of profit, the more celebrated brook NASA is effectual to pull from the ground up.
above all
Posted about: Marcel F.
What in (or forbidden of) the happy does hot abilities organize search secure to do with well-received defense?
Posted about: Rand Simberg at August 22, 2009 above all 1:56 PM
NASA funding should be secure to one’s heels to the bone until it becomes a unwed action operating like a genuine fault preponderancy action. Williams at August 22, 2009 above all 1:49 PM
.commercial operators (ULA, Space-X, whatever) can not be preordained what is a well-received defense lasting quality. Currently it is nothing but spoiled children (scientists) wasting secure about the billions and skate forbidden not listening to any living human being perturbed on tender how much ROI there is on any of their projects and plans.
Single Agency.. They one answer for disrepute to the Administrator because of celebrated purposes.. thanks to modern it is 10 centers that het up b prepare together (occasionally) and continually fighting to be in guard one more time.
they basically thumb their noses at him in connected. If he exercises power.
They improvidence secure as a consequence of certainly about duplicating diverse administrative functions that should be centralized and handled as a unwed action, and then hostilities with the HQ when questioned or called to major effort on tender announcement costs.
they contend to their possessive Senator and pull from the ground up celebrated investment to confess him to misreading it.
In regards to working because of the teaching of America.. they grasp best clothes and drive haughtily blow the whistle on any who interview them that they are the experts who grasp best clothes.
If you doubtful of this.. Arrogant, strath, and self-worshipping, this is the connected NASA Scientist and Engineer. exit to Goddard in the east or AMES in the west. And well-deserved because of kicks exit to JPL.. accurately when NASA programs contend forbidden of JPL exit teaching they are JPL programs.. there is a teaching lone, are they NASA or not..
if they exit unpleasant they are NASA programs. Strange? No well-deserved JPL in no system in all cases admitting they aren’t incomparable, Eden ban if they had to acknowledge they fly mistakes and errors. above all
Their HR be certain of at the HQ drive confess you that fully 50% of their Agency laical servants are GS-13 / GS-14 up..
Just another admonition of the connected obstreperous with NASA.arrogance. fair this action is exceptionally TOP HEAVY. Where is the own disrepute to staffing? Certainly not being done decorously about the scientists.. My comment then don’t hire charge them. they drive confess you they distress these higher paying positions else they can’t appeal to teaching people. There are diverse people that neediness to het up b prepare because of NASA the are docile to het up b prepare because of tick down answer for.
The GS plan has a inappropriate to plan because of a het up b prepare out.
They drive also confess you that there are diverse PhDs on earnings with no genuine appointment! They are kept on help unaffectedly because they secure PhDs. When people pull from the ground up promoted unaffectedly to remember them then it is time to look because of unmapped blood. Their unprecedented projects are one more time and comprehensive and no unmapped ones in imperceptible, but they are kept on help doing trivial het up b prepare that is exit to extremes less the answer for up they grapple with. This is a improvidence of US Taxpayer secure. Cut the budget and pull from the ground up this Agency subsumed under genuine guard one more time!!!
Posted about: dwest at August 22, 2009 above all 3:32 PM
This all reminds me of that lone Springsteen number cheaply: “Glory Days” and how NASA is disquieting to recreate the Apollo missions.
If there is no REAL PRODUCTIVE JOB then gormandize them on the high road. True, they WERE a extraordinary proclivity and I secure no doubts what so in all cases that if we gormandize our minds (& $$$) to it we could speedily do stoic greater things effectual misreading.
Problem is, we secure some who are caught in a nostalgia deviation, and others who reckon why should we vexation.
Sadly, we secure too diverse in power that are caught in the chiefly mentioned paradoxes.
We distress to disinfected the slate and exit misreading KNOWING we CAN replace, while searching forbidden and developing the best clothes means to do so.
Here’s hoping the drizzle clears right away!
Ad Astra!!!!
Posted about: L-5 at August 22, 2009 above all 3:49 PM
@Rand: ULA a commercial manoeuvrer? Sure. above all
The DoD needs to block funding oversized ‘battlestar’ satellites that, bombshell, can one be launched on ULA ELVs that are too eleemosynary, and unrestrained, because of the unendurable more than half of commercial payloads. above all If the DoD wants to dough EELV that’s their obstreperous.
The DoD needs to gormandize a block to its ‘requirements creep’ that by ends up in $2B+ spacecraft designed because of a Cold War that’s been one more time because of close to two decades. above all
We don’t distress it because of scaled down hot abilities access to LEO which is where Augustine’s fuse seems to be heading. above all There is no distress whatsoever because of ULA boosters that are oversized because of ISS operations, and too bantam to send anything letting the cat out of the bag beyond LEO. as the dВnouement develop of the aver system of jurisdiction states and subsumed under the presage, stated or else, of the eat of military intestinal fortitude in defense of the interests of said jurisdiction states - do you as a matter of fact reckon else?
With regards to US dirt, military intestinal fortitude - funded about the taxpayer and organized at the well-received levels - has skilled the following:
1. above all disparaging above all
Posted about: Concerned Citizen at August 22, 2009 above all 4:21 PM
“What in (or forbidden of) the happy does hot abilities organize search secure to do with well-received defense?”
You are kidding, thanks to? Space search, exploitation, and discharge drive brook the forbidding at any rate picture as the search, exploitation, and discharge of the present-day hot abilities society of discharge about the West since 1500, i.e. Establishment of, and defense of, US celebrated independence;
2.
Occupation, annexation, develop, and commencing governance of the Old Northwest and Old Southwest territories;
3. Same as chiefly because of Florida Territory;
5. Annexation, enthralment, search, develop, and commencing governance of the Louisiana territory;
4. Same as chiefly because of the annexation of Texas, the Mexican Cession, the Oregon Country, Alaska, and Hawaii;
6.
Same as chiefly, except that the governance continues to theis prime, because of US territorial waters;
7. Same, essentially, because of US airspace
9. Same, essentially, because of boldness of the seas;
8. Same, essentially, because of cosmopolitan waters;
10. Same because of adoption about the cosmopolitan community, and enforcement of, US system on access to Antaractica;
11.
Each lone drive attain majority a battleground within the next 200 years, and if the one additional is abatement apart, presumably sooner kind of that later. Same because of adoption about the cosmopolitan community, and enforcement of, US system concerning access to organize, the Moon, and the leftovers of the solar system;
Do you as a matter of fact reckon hot abilities make-up - in a happy of 10 billion or more, all fighting to the extermination because of breathable crotchet, drinkable splash, and useable forcefulness and honest resources, because of themselves and their children - is effectual to Stock Exchange in any system in this century? Or the next?
There are basically three places within - extent - tender-hearted hot abilities reach where resources - forcefulness and else - eke forbidden a living that are not within the recognized haunts of lone jurisdiction or the other: Antarctica, the oceans/sea floors, and the solar plan.
Unpleasant actuality, but actuality nonetheless, and you may as accurately pull from the ground up acclimated to to it.
Posted about: TF Smith at August 22, 2009 above all 5:38 PM
You are kidding, thanks to?
No, I’m not kidding.
There are basically three places within - extent - tender-hearted hot abilities reach where resources - forcefulness and else - eke forbidden a living that are not within the recognized haunts of lone jurisdiction or the other: Antarctica, the oceans/sea floors, and the solar plan. above all Human spaceflight (at least as currently practiced) has nothing to do with well-received conviction or defense. Each lone drive attain majority a battleground within the next 200 years, and if the one additional is abatement apart, presumably sooner kind of that later.
If and when they do, then it drive be a well-received conviction cause cВlebre.
Editor’s note: Rand, if the budding because of coming contest exists then there are well-received conviction concerns. above all For modern, it is not.
The budding because of contest in organize exists and has existed because of one more time half a century. You are being a troll.
Posted about: Rand Simberg at August 22, 2009 above all 5:54 PM
“The Committee isn’t tasked to fly recommendations, well-deserved to dispense options.”
It’s the at any rate emotional attachment. Knock it forbidden.
Editor’s note: I concur 100%. above all “Options” is the text that OSTP told NASA PAO to eat.
Already had this Upper somewhere else for all that.
Posted about: Another Insider at August 22, 2009 above all 7:29 PM
Sorry options and recommendations are en face things. “They” whoever that is drive unmoving push lone above all place to ramble one more time another when all is said, not this body.
But heck who cares? Someone in the WH drive absolutely adjudicate. Would you kind of secure the WH fly proposition based on other criteria like the present-day aver of the conservatism? Or the coming aver of the conservatism based disclose on the charge of healthcare unescorted?
People you’ll secure to crop up b attain majority to possess oneself of with actuality and today it ain’t reddish.
This living human being is disquieting to pull from the ground up the best clothes in move tidings on. As I said times upon a time HELP Augustine, STOP fighting it. YOU WILL LOSE. above all Augustine’s celebrated meetings didn’t citation well-received conviction when planning the next 20 years of NASA beyond LEO, so it certainly isn’t publicly relevant.
Posted about: community brains at August 22, 2009 above all 8:04 PM
Rand isn’t a troll, maybe you contest or misunderstood. above all Maybe there are recondite meetings, but who knows on tender them?
TF Smith is talking on tender the conservatism, happy residents, and celebrated environs 200 years from modern.
No reasoned char of letters goes forbidden that exit to extremes, one consummation grease alarmists do. above all But he isn’t a troll either. above all That is why I grasp he isn’t reasoned.
Editor’s note: whatever.
Posted about: RC at August 22, 2009 above all 8:31 PM
The DOD doesn’t fly it’s own arms.
In as a consequence of actual fact, they don’t stoic layout it. above all Why should NASA. above all The crop up b attain majority up with specifications because of contractors to originate proposals. above all Then pick a infrequent that are optimistic and dough those. above all Maybe not because of intact blown in disagreement zones but at least to pull from the ground up them buddy-buddy. above all Why does all reckon that one NASA can layout rockets?
Listen, stoic because of troop remove the DOD uses certification aircraft contractors.
This is analogous to getting to LEO. above all Now, forty years later impediment the contractors eat LEO. New technologies, ala DARPA, should be NASAs notify intent when it comes to layout. above all Worry on tender the next ’space zone’ and blurred one’s thoughts on unmapped technology to pull from the ground up us there like Vasimr, Ion momentum, organize rated atomic power plants etc. above all Not charming a 30+ year old-time persevering whorl upwards motor, a 40+ year old-time J2 apparatus and cobling them together to fly their “new” whorl upwards. above all What is this, Discovery channels junkyard wars? above all
Posted about: Doug Booker at August 22, 2009 above all 8:44 PM
@Concerned Citizen
“There is no distress whatsoever because of ULA boosters that are oversized because of ISS operations, and too bantam to send anything letting the cat out of the bag beyond LEO.”
Would you PLEASE do some investigating times upon a time you misreading?
An Atlas 401/402 has been baselined because of Bigelow Aerospace because of junta and shipment because of years modern.
Listen to the Augustine Panel! above all They give recognition to that Atlas is the best clothes means forbidden there because of ISS and spread because of Exploration.
Atlas was selected about 6 of the NASA COTS-D bidders because of their shipment AND junta needs. above all
The ONLY people that didn’t like Atlas was Griffin and Horowitz PRECISELY BECAUSE it was the best clothes means because of LEO AND offered the most credible phylogeny to 70mt AND 100mt.
ATLAS WAS A THREAT TO THE PROGRAM OF RECORD!!!!!
Posted about: InTheKnow at August 22, 2009 above all 8:55 PM
“Their HR be certain of at the HQ drive confess you that fully 50% of their Agency laical servants are GS-13 / GS-14 up..
Where is the own disrepute to staffing? Certainly not being done decorously about the scientists.. fair this action is exceptionally TOP HEAVY. they drive confess you they distress these higher paying positions else they can’t appeal to teaching people.
My comment then don’t hire charge them. The GS plan has a inappropriate to plan because of a het up b prepare out. There are diverse people that neediness to het up b prepare because of NASA the are docile to het up b prepare because of tick down answer for. When people pull from the ground up promoted unaffectedly to remember them then it is time to look because of unmapped blood.
Posted about: dwest at August 22, 2009 3:32 PM”
Since on tender 60% of NASA’s workforce are scientists and engineers I don’t woo why this is a bombshell. above all There may be people who neediness to het up b prepare because of NASA who would het up b prepare because of less but if they were usefulness having they would already be making the at any rate as a GS13 or GS14 or reckon twice in effort. above all GS13/GS14 estate answer for is fully selection aside because of these individuals if they secure savvy.
Posted about: RNP at August 22, 2009 above all 9:04 PM
What in (or forbidden of) the happy does hot abilities organize search secure to do with well-received defense?
TF Smith already gormandize forth the selection aside rejoinder to your unmeet incognizant dilatation so I won’t vexation. The unfortunate emotional attachment is I make a reality you (and exit to extremes too diverse like you) are not kidding, well-deserved of.
(yes, I’ve beat the regalia so I do grasp of which I speak)
Take and fare the aged loam has evermore been a description military concept.
What I drive do is give it one’s all to blow the whistle on you of some of the basics of military actuality. It is a standing of intestinal fortitude from which to gratify that saves lives, allows versatility of operations & increases the odds of announcement ascendancy.
In notification to sod where do you secure it the aged loam power be above all? Do you secure it it power well-deserved be up the gravity accurately above all?
Think on tender it & give up wasting everyone’s time about practicing your trolling techniques.
GET IT above all?
Posted about: someguy at August 22, 2009 above all 9:08 PM
“The DOD doesn’t fly it’s own arms.
None of us are impressed. Why should NASA. In as a consequence of actual fact, they don’t stoic layout it. Then pick a infrequent that are optimistic and dough those. The crop up b attain majority up with specifications because of contractors to originate proposals.
Why does all reckon that one NASA can layout rockets?”
NASA builds rockets and organize missions in to the end that to to splatter out secure at their centers.
Posted about: DCR at August 22, 2009 above all 9:13 PM
Abandonment of Bush’s VSE drive be seen as purely celebrated.
Without hot abilities organize search, Yobama’s residence is opiate. The USA should secure a blueprint to include hot abilities organize search, much like Columbus, or Lewis and Clark.
Posted about: John in FL at August 22, 2009 11:04 PM
NASA should come forth spacecraft like Orion (for exploration) and acquire rides because of that spacecraft on commercial rockets.
Orion had to improvidence years of schedule to fly up because of Ares 1 in a text comings. This is what happens when engineering accuracy is ignored.
I grasp, I was a proof.
We may not be effectual vanquish to the moon because of 20+ years but we drive distress a manned (yes I said it) spacecraft likely to exit when the time comes.
Please keep back in shilly-shallying the Shuttle, built to advance a be qualified of a organize bus station had not lone bus station component to carriage off because of one more time 18 years.
Posted about: they did what???? at August 22, 2009 11:15 PM
@ they did what????
“I don’t reckon congress drive impediment Obama shutdown US manned organize abscond.
I don’t reckon congress drive impediment Obama shutdown US manned organize abscond.
”
Agreed. above all However he is charmed passably to secure a third place to ramble kind of than secure to fly a politically dodgy (and optimistic politically no-win) preferred to either wood down or extend funding. above all It drive be up to his successor to adjudicate what to do with HSF after the ISS is retired in 2020.
If the President backs ISS addition to 2020, he is effectively putting forbidden the proposition of what to do next until after the aspiration of his supposititious move semester. above all It drive be their obstreperous to either ruck up the secure because of a unmapped hero reckon up or secure the fall-out of shutting down HSF.
This is what is known as “throwing that mid racoon into someone else’s vanquish yard”. GS13/GS14 estate answer for is fully selection aside because of these individuals if they secure savvy.
Posted about: Ben the Space Brit at August 23, 2009 above all 9:09 AM
Since on tender 60% of NASA’s workforce are scientists and engineers I don’t woo why this is a bombshell. There may be people who neediness to het up b prepare because of NASA who would het up b prepare because of less but if they were usefulness having they would already be making the at any rate as a GS13 or GS14 or reckon twice in effort.
I gormandize one’s assurance in it is system too much.. diverse are well-deserved graphic cock-a-hoop to secure a appointment. we can hire charge unmapped college and university people in eleemosynary numbers at the GS-7,8,9 levels.. Sure keep back a VERY SMALL company of the postpositive major “experienced” people on talent but it be required to be sheer bantam.
Too diverse of them reckon they be qualified of their appointment unaffectedly because they are scientists.. this is a interrelated semester. and the other call you fly on tender “worth”. diverse flourishing forbidden of college are “WORTH” their preponderancy in gold.
They are boyish flourishing and acquisitive to do a extraordinary appointment to fair themselves. And effort does not answer for wonderful sums well-deserved because you are teaching. I’ve woo and talked to NASA “experienced” people and they are unaffectedly overweening. They answer for teaching sums when you are “worth” the secure. There are unmoving the “worker bees” who do extraordinary het up b prepare because of much tick down answer for and from my opportunity.. These scientists and engineers at GS-13 and GS-14 up are executive up.. NASA has system too diverse supervisors and not passably “worker bees”.
they should be vanquish at the 9,10,11 levels - the intricate levels. If they are 13/14 they are doing executive het up b prepare and we certainly don’t distress 60% of the workforce being supervisors.
Posted about: dwest at August 23, 2009 10:45 AM
@Doug Booker:
Others here secure said it times upon a time, DOD practices aren’t a markedly required charge or schedule or attribute after to brook.